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Post by Nepherea on Dec 17, 2005 23:27:46 GMT 1
this is something i noticed the other day when we attempted mar'li .
Some people were not serious enough and tought zg is like doing ubrs or saying this sucks etc while the tactics were explained or tips were given ingame . Even some people complained about having dura loss for a tank okay but not for a mage for instance , if you don't want the risk of having broken EQ then don't sign up !
I can only hope Next raid will go smoother with less whining cause some elders and officers are sick of it !!
Ty for understanding ,
Nepherea
(officer )
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Post by killerbean on Dec 18, 2005 1:27:06 GMT 1
less whining cause some elders and officers are sick of it !! if so, then why start a topic in which your whining at ppl who have to pay a hughe repair bill because they died like 5 times in 14 minutes?  |
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Post by Aldandil on Dec 18, 2005 2:32:50 GMT 1
I would say that asking people to get a grip about ZG and MC runs is a valid reason. If i were to show up for guildraids with cheap lvl 1 arrows to save the rather large amounts of gold i spend on arrows, i'm guessing other people would be upset. As Neph has stated, end-game instances is not like UBRS or any other similar raidinstance, wipes are a fact, and will occur if we are to make progress.
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Post by eaz on Dec 18, 2005 15:01:26 GMT 1
I agree, if we don't attempt to do new things we won't learn anything. Trying it means there's the possibility of wiping.. thats the negative side you have to take with it.
That Xorax bothered me last night, witht he constant "zzzz this sucks and its boring".. If people make that kinda of comments then I think, they shouldn't participate in raids.
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Post by bobsonn on Dec 19, 2005 0:13:10 GMT 1
OMFG i allmost had 7g repairs!!! FFS OMG noobzzz  ok for real: buying my defense gear: about 800g (i think) repairs of big guild raids: 5g a raid healing post: 5g a raid the rides to it: not much effort, organizing, dieing, chatting. seeing the guild/raid chat when we first take down a new boss: PRICELESS!!!!  really i dont care dieing and paying. its so great to see guildreaction on taking down bosses. this game is about fun!! |
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Post by dlux on Dec 19, 2005 8:41:54 GMT 1
I dunno what raid u are talking about, but as far as I known, all the ZG raids where fun  Maybe sometimes we could be a little faster, but also sometimes we need to be more carefull !!! Im gonna keep repeating it, but pulling mobgroups is the only key to not wiping upon trashmobs ... (we are already getting better at this, but not yet good enough imho... Oh yeah, and kill all mob on our way pls... just to play it safe ... (like the wipe on those snakes last week) |
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Post by thomassil on Dec 19, 2005 11:20:43 GMT 1
Please don't even talk about that wipe, thatwas rediculous. Wallhugging isn't walking on the middle of the road. That was really bad, so yes kill all the mobs on the way. More reputation and more loot.
In raids you die and it costs money, therefor we grind. *And mages are meant to be dead ^^* ***Especially Gnome mages*** *Hopes the discussion will stir up again, thus equipping a flameshield and boots of returning retardness ^^*
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Post by runa on Dec 19, 2005 12:03:10 GMT 1
On the last ZG (17 dec) i hadnt signed up, but i jumped in as an extra cuz someone left. When i came into the raid it was chaos. Nepherea tryed to organize it but people just keept on fooling around. Then someone, i wont say names here took over the "stop dmg" and "start dmg" cuz he said he could do it so well , and all went bad.
When it comes to marli we must wait much longer before we start the dps. Maybe up to 15 second with the tank before we start.
There is always someone that STILL nuking or shoot with bows after "stop dmg" has been anounced. That is not ftw imo!
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Post by dlux on Dec 19, 2005 12:14:31 GMT 1
[quote author=thomassil In raids you die and it costs money, therefor we grind. *And mages are meant to be dead ^^* ***Especially Gnome mages*** *Hopes the discussion will stir up again, thus equipping a flameshield and boots of returning retardness ^^*[/quote]
what is that about? can´t follow there ...
btw: another thing : why didnt we do ZG last saturday ? we had 2 warlocks 1 mage and 4 healers and 2 pala´s ... maybe it would have been hard to get the spider down, but why not at least try ? maybe some extra pala would have been great idd ...but with more tanks and more ranges dps it would have been possible imho ...
If we are really that scared for making it then its completely WRONG ... if we don´t try we will never know ... so next time I strongly advice to at least try something instead of doing nothing (or ubrs in this case)
And idd ZG and MC etc should be taken VERY serious ... stay calm and be patient !!!
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Post by dlux on Dec 19, 2005 12:17:52 GMT 1
There is always someone that STILL nuking or shoot with bows after "stop dmg" has been anounced. That is not ftw imo! I dont think I was there so dunno what happened there ... but when a hunter is assigned to viper sting, it must be on the boss ALL the time ! so they need to sting it every 5 seconds approx. and when shooting viper, there is always an arrow / bullet following ataumaticly ... just to clear some misunderstandings here ;-) Another thing that is a real MUST for hunters is to use there feign death while fighting a boss ... specially when u are hitting BIG with good crits... FD clears your complete agro and u can go FULL dps again after it ;-) |
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Post by runa on Dec 19, 2005 12:26:39 GMT 1
There is always someone that STILL nuking or shoot with bows after "stop dmg" has been anounced. That is not ftw imo! I dont think I was there so dunno what happened there ... but when a hunter is assigned to viper sting, it must be on the boss ALL the time ! so they need to sting it every 5 seconds approx. and when shooting viper, there is always an arrow / bullet following ataumaticly ... just to clear some misunderstandings here ;-) When i checked marli didnt had any vipersting on her and i saw arrows in the air  |
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Post by dlux on Dec 19, 2005 12:44:38 GMT 1
I dont think I was there so dunno what happened there ... but when a hunter is assigned to viper sting, it must be on the boss ALL the time ! so they need to sting it every 5 seconds approx. and when shooting viper, there is always an arrow / bullet following ataumaticly ... just to clear some misunderstandings here ;-) When i checked marli didnt had any vipersting on her and i saw arrows in the air k k ... np then I wanst in that raid (cause im the vipersting hunter mostly :-p) |
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Post by socrates on Dec 19, 2005 14:11:26 GMT 1
OMFG i allmost had 7g repairs!!! FFS OMG noobzzz ok for real: buying my defense gear: about 800g (i think) repairs of big guild raids: 5g a raid healing post: 5g a raid the rides to it: not much effort, organizing, dieing, chatting. seeing the guild/raid chat when we first take down a new boss: PRICELESS!!!! really i dont care dieing and paying. its so great to see guildreaction on taking down bosses. this game is about fun!! lol^^ bobsonn covered the whole meaning of these raids very well. If I go to a raid I dont care about some virtual money and all these non-existing things. The reason for doing raids is beacause you get one real thing in return, pleasure. Screw epix, Joy ftw! |
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Post by bobsonn on Dec 19, 2005 14:46:45 GMT 1
well epix are nice addition as well hmmm so fryday didnt go that well. im getting the idea that raids dont go as smoothly without shar. it seems people listen better then. about saturday. the moral of the guild shouldnt be lowered to much cuz we got marli to 3000. it would be bad to not even get him to 40%. and else people will get to much DKP ;P trashruns with dkp. cost allmost no dkp to players. whitch will mean gabs between players will become to big with no better gear at all. im not against trying a boss.when we are allready there. i charged the raid boss in silithus 4 time who got me down in 5 hits. just to see what he does. but taking 3 hours to get somewhere, dont get loots. but stack up dkp... then i would rather wait till a serius run i think |
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Post by thomassil on Dec 19, 2005 15:59:25 GMT 1
I think friday did go well. We have wiped at the snakes, but we've done like we always do. Taking down MAndokir and Venoxis. That's two bosses down, so i would not call it a bad run, even with a sohow imbalanced group. People just need to learn to come on time. People who are 1 hour late should expect to be replaced. That's rather normal. We even got an offer of a priest but tried it with these 20 people and we succeed on 2 bosses.
But raiding takes money. And normal instances are money gains normally. But guildees could join each other on grinds. When epics drop then, people could also choose to split up the gain on it. This would make grinding nice and honest and rewarding for all groupmembers.
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